this one is smaller than this one. curated by Paulina Bębecka @ Postmasters

I got to interview Paulina Bębecka the director of Postmasters Gallery about the wonderful show she curated “this one is smaller than this one.”

Snackies! Laura Murray "1, 13, 17 Years", 2016

Snackies!
Laura Murray “1, 13, 17 Years”, 2016

How and why did you decide to get into the arts?
My best friend, Anna, was the first one who told me that I should quit studying Business and Economics in undergrad and go into the arts but I really have to thank my sister Agata and Marilyn Minter who introduced me to Magda Sawon and actually got me started with my Postmasters gallery internship 11 years ago! (after graduation :))  I remember I was so green. I didn’t know anything. But Magda for some reason liked me and that’s when my real learning really begun.
What have been your biggest affirmations of that choice?
All the wonderful creative, sometimes eccentric, and inspiring people that I have in my life. And all the ones that I will still meet. And the fact that I am so happy doing what I love.
What have been your biggest moments of self doubt?
I have doubts when the ugliness of the art business shows up… Thankfully there is always humor when in need of a relief.

 

This snackie is in a box... Will you get it out? Ryder Ripps"Rare Pepe, Or Why Post Internet Art is Stupid", 2015

This snackie is in a box… Will you get it out?
Ryder Ripps”Rare Pepe, Or Why Post Internet Art is Stupid”, 2015

 

How do you go about putting together/curating a show?
I start with an idea. Or with a work of art I fall in love with. Or with an artist. Or with a question I can’t seem to answer myself. There isn’t one way to start and one way to go about it.
Who/what are your biggest non-art influences? Why?
Yongey Mingyur Rinpoche – thought me that everything will change, nothing will ever be the same and that everything I need I already have…within me. Good to keep that in mind when things get tough.
Those beds are so tiny! Installation View: this one is smaller than this one.

Those beds are so tiny!
Installation View: this one is smaller than this one.

 

Who/what are your biggest art influences? Why?
My bosses, Magda Sawon and Tamas Banovich. Seriously, they are my art heroes and art parents combined. I wouldn’t be who I am today without them. I have never met more resilient, creative, caring and passionate people in the art world than them. They run Postmasters for 32 years and plowed through these years on their pure passion for art and determination. Also both of them just know so much, like walking art encyclopedias. My favorite time of the day is when I come to the gallery and Magda and I sit and discuss everything, from gallery tasks, our goals and victories and worries, to current affairs and art in general to last night’s party or a date. Installing this show with Tamas was also one of the best learning experiences ever. His spatial mind is absolutely astonishing to me. He is a perfectionist and so imaginative! This show’s installation wouldn’t happen without Tamas. He is the man! I’m inspired everyday by both of them.
How would you describe your aesthetic?
Eclectic for sure. Strange perhaps, daring……. I’m discovering everyday…I love beauty and sometime it is enough, but not usually. For me works of art have to have a twist, and another, and then another one for good measure.

 

These graphs are so cool! Richard Ibghy and Marilou Lemmens "All the Kings Horsemen", 2016 & background from left, Xu Wang, Nick van Woert, Olaf Breuning, Daria Irincheeva, Agathe Snow

These graphs are so cool!
Richard Ibghy and Marilou Lemmens “All the Kings Horsemen”, 2016 & background from left, Xu Wang, Nick van Woert, Olaf Breuning, Daria Irincheeva, Agathe Snow

 

Can you talk a little bit about your experiences of being a woman in the art world?
I feel women can be very successful in the art world, but they have to be very strong… It’s like everywhere though in a very competitive environment. It’s not an easy business. But with passion and resilience you can do anything.
How do you find new artists?
By having my eyes and ears open.

 

Bumper, this is my photoshoot! Installation View: this one is smaller than this one.

Bumper, this is my photoshoot!
Installation View: this one is smaller than this one.

How do you decide what to put in the shows you curate?
I decide with my organs…eyes, brain and heart, basically how I live my life. I do trust myself and seek harmony.

What’s the most important thing you want people to know about you that no one asks or that you don’t get to say?
I’m a lifer in the arts. No way out 🙂 and that is pretty ok with me.

 

Puppy play time!! Sally Smart in The Choreography of Cutting

Puppy play time!!
Sally Smart in The Choreography of Cutting

 

this one is smaller than this one. runs from January 30 – March 19, 2016

 

With:

Elliott Young, Nick van Woert, Lawrence Weiner, Xu Wang, Radek Szlaga, Agathe Snow, Harriet Salmon, Ryder Ripps, Pussykrew, Niki de Saint Phalle, Serkan Özkaya, Jennifer Catron & Paul Outlaw, Narcissister, Jenny Morgan, Jonathan Monaghan, Laura Murray, Greg Louis, Richard Ibghy & Marilou Lemmens, Kristen Jensen, Daria Irincheeva, Andrew Thomas Huang, Hugh Hayden, C.J. Chueca, Monica Cook, James Case-Leal, John Byam, Olaf Breuning, & Bogy Banovich.